More Trucking Deaths May Be Caused by Drivers Racing the Clock

October 31, 2018 by Alan Adler, @AlanAdler

Truckers racing to beat the federal rule requiring a rest break after driving for eight hours could be contributing to increased fatal crashes involving big rigs.

Deaths from large truck crashes reached their highest level in 29 years in 2017, according to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data.

“Drivers feel like they literally have a gun to their head,” Todd Spencer, president of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, told Trucks.com. “The typical response was to turn up the maximum permissible speeds on the trucks to allow drivers to make up some time.”

In 2017, 37,133 people died in motor vehicle crashes, a 2 percent decline from the prior year. But large-truck fatalities rose 9 percent to 4,761, an increase of 392 lives lost over the prior year. About 1,300 of the deaths were truckers. The remaining 72 percent occurred in the other vehicle involved in the collision.

Looking at trucks in the largest weight segment, Class 8, deaths climbed by 221 in 2017 from 2016 to 3,844. That’s a 4 percent increase for trucks that weigh more than 33,000 pounds.

Jim Mullen, FMCSA

“We hear a lot of drivers saying because of a lack of flexibility, we’re speeding,” said Jim Mullen, chief counsel for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. “I hope they’re not putting themselves and the motoring public in danger just to get their freight from Point A to Point B because of the regulations.”

Mullen said that while drivers may be speeding, he doesn’t think there is link between truck fatalities and the federal hours-of-service rule. The regulation limits driving to 11 hours in a 14-hour period with a 30-minute break at eight hours.

But regulators are considering modifications. The FMCSA is reviewing 5,200 comments to proposed changes in the hours-of-service rule. The 30-minute break received the most comments, Mullen said.

The rest break is “the dumbest rule I’ve ever heard of,” said Luke Foster, who hauls cars for Romulus, Mich.-based United Road. He said the forced downtime increases his fatigue. The 61-year-old driver prefers working 11 hours straight before resting.

“You put me on break, sometimes I’ve got to ride with the window down to stay awake,” Foster said.

Truckers who do speed are getting caught and ticketed more often, said Duane DeBruyne, an FMCSA spokesman. Speeding remains the No. 1 cause of fatal crashes. But speed has been responsible for a declining percentage of fatal crashes involving big trucks for three consecutive years, DeBruyne said.

Some truckers attribute the deaths to bad driving habits.

“The younger drivers who are now getting into trucking are bringing along their bad driving habits,” said Jeromy Hodges, a retired trucker from Victoria, Texas.

Hodges recalled seeing one trucker driving with both feet on the dash and the vehicle on cruise control. He also sees truckers texting.

He retired in 2016 because it had become “such a dangerous job with all the distracted drivers out there. I didn’t want to press my luck any longer.”

Driver monitoring through on-board technology could help reduce crashes.

Software developer Trimble Inc., which offers a suite of driver analytics that measure factors including seat belt use, hard braking and speeding, is partnering with Pulsar Infomatics to monitor how fatigue affects driving behaviors. A digital scorecard lets motor carriers reward, coach or even fire drivers based on how well they drive.

Fatigue and lack of sleep are cited as danger signs in multiple studies of truck driver safety.

Most crashes in which the trucker was at fault and judged to be sleepy or fatigued occurred at least 20 miles from a rest area or truck stop, according to a study in the November 2017 edition of Accident Analysis & Prevention.

Many in the industry attribute driver fatigue to a lack of accessible and safe parking.

Truckers voted safe rest areas as their second-greatest concern following hours-of-service rules changes in the latest Top 10 challenges compiled by the American Transportation Research Institute. Motor carriers voted it their ninth-highest priority. That made it the No. 5 concern overall.

FMCSA Administrator Ray Martinez said additional safe rest areas for drivers need to be part of any infrastructure bill. President Donald Trump called for a $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan in his 2016 campaign.

The answer is more full-service truck stops, said Barry Pottle, chairman of the American Trucking Associations. He said five rest areas in his home state of Maine have closed in the last year because there is no money to operate them.

Nearly two-thirds of car-truck collisions are caused by the drivers of passenger cars, said Chris Spear, the ATA’s chief executive. He said distracted driving is the major reason. Technologies like automatic emergency braking, included on most new heavy-duty trucks, could help reduce crashes. Automatic braking becomes standard on passenger cars in 2022. Spear said automatic braking, combined with vehicle-to-vehicle communications, could put all highway fatalities “on the road to zero.”

But FMCSA’s Mullen said driver-assist features could be causing some truck drivers to pay less attention.

“Distracted driving absolutely is rising, and it’s problematic,” he said. “We’re trying to juggle having sufficient technology to assist the driver but not overwhelm him or her or create complacency.”

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50 Responses

  1. Michael Siedlecki

    How can this be a surprise to anyone? Taking away a driver’s flexibility to stop and rest when conditions warrant, and resume operations when conditions become more favorable is a bad idea. Rush-hour traffic, bad weather, or just feeling tired… once the clock is started, there’s no stopping it under the current rules. It’s “ready, set, go”! And when the clock does stop, you’re done. If you haven’t made it to your destination, too bad. This regulatory rigidity negatively affects attitude, decision-making and fatigue. That’s right, fatigue! Wasn’t that what the rules were supposed to address?

    • Lindy Starr

      I am so GLAD there is a driver shortage, aren’t you? Can’t find a safe parking place now after 5pm, once the shortage is addressed, won’t be any hardly at all. Let’s be realistic, all across the country you see more and more signs that rest areas are supported in part by insurance companies or trucking companies. It’s a good model. More realism: rest areas are like glass palaces………….just to use the head? Look at the last rest area on I 90 in Wisconsin, you could hold a Bible ralley in it it is so grand. Gas taxes: we need an investigation into how the states have diverted the current tax into their pet projects thru the general fund.
      AAAAAAAAND!!!!!!1 All the lip flapping by ATA and the fmcsa legal beagle? Read MY lips please: pay us for all hours worked and you end the problem of speed caused accidents; and it isn’t speeding per se, but, like we are being forced to do, we get up now at 5 am and go the speed limit everywhere, which will cost us an extra $10,000 in fuel costs this year. You heard the saying: for the lack of a horseshoe, the war was lost? Well, for the fmcsa’s refusal to mandate that we get paid for all our hours, the “war” against the hos will continue to be lost.

      • mousekiller

        I seriously doubt the number of drivers has much to do with parking. It is the drivers that cannot,will not think for themselves and stop when they need to due to the constantly ticking clock that say they have several hrs to the mandatory break So they push themselves and since most start at nearly the same time each day they all arrive at the same time. . Non thinking, unwilling. Afraid to leave time on the ELD.

      • abdul momohdaha

        @mousekiller, you have no idea what you are talking about. you’re just making foolish 4 wheeler accusations that you have no basis for. It’s obvious you have no knowledge of this industry

    • Pam

      You have made my husband more tired. You tell him when to sleep then if u have to wind down its 3 hours sleep then before he slept when he was tired..sometimes he go down the road take a nsp 2 hours or so then 8 later after at the destination..its not working!

    • Lawrence Golbom

      All the comments are valid. However, the Swamp Dwellers in Washington are not going to concede to common sense. The HOS don’t match reality and have created great danger for the trucker. Washington jobs would be lost if trucker’s lives were important.

    • Brandon

      I love the part where it said all the fatalities are within 20 miles of a Rest stop or Truck stop..What time of day was it, because if it was after 1700 those dam things were already full..I have shippers tell me when i ask if i can park there that theres a truck stop up the road, at 2200…LMFAO…These people dont understand there is no parking at that hour..And that dam 30 min break shit is making it worse, dragging out the day even longer..And now these people are parking on the fuel islands to get it.. Yesterday i read the growing list of states that will ticket you up to 750.00 for ideling 1 minute if its above 22F or below 90F…So at 24 degrees you must freeze, now how the hell is that helping people get the deep sleep they need to operate when they are freezing to death..Man im about ready to sell my truck.

    • Stephen Webster

      We said this would happen as trucks are forced to run through bad weather and storms to avoid fines for missing delivery appointment s. Lack of parking every where especially at receivers. E -logs are causing more accidents. A study was done in Canada in 2005 and looked at E-LOGS vs overtime pay after 10 hours per day. Hourly pay at 1,9 times minimum wage plus overtime after 10 hours was considered a better option for (experienced truck drivers) The groups that pushed for E-LOGS threatened to sue the government of Canada in 2006 under NAFTA. They now want government money to train new drivers from low wage countries. These drivers can not fill out a paper log or read English.

    • Daniel Kennedy

      Seems ironic with more “safety” devices there are now more accidents. Driving too casually would seem to the the real reason! Basic drivers ed is nonexistent. It is a dilema in our society.

  2. Ronald Hammett

    Article says most accidents occur 20 miles from rest areas or truck stops. I am seeing a lot of rest areas that are closed and blocked off. Weigh stations that can handle truck parking also. Why? Plenty of places that can handle trucks are off limit to us. That leads to drivers parking on ramps due to truck stops being full. States need to help provide more safe parking, and police could also help by ticketing cars that cut us off.

  3. Scott George

    I keep hearing the ATA making comments about more automated devices put in trucks that’s part of the problem these young drivers rely upon them and have terrible driving habits. They drive with their feet on the dash with cruise control on don’t signal ect. And the ATA pushing for even younger drivers so far all the things that the ATA has pushed for to help the large corporation trucking companies is back firing on them and its creating more problems and getting people and drivers killed

    • dennis brown

      its NOT just the young drivers…on a daily basis, I have senior veteran drivers passing me and they either don’t signal or consider a single flash a signal….well….that’s NOT a signal…a signal is initiate the signal 1-200 feet prior to a turn or lane change and keeps flashing until COMPLETELY in the lane or completed with the turn….

  4. Alan pennington

    Because of the new registration and hours of service. You have put to many inexperienced drivers on the road. You put that with the drivers chasing the clock. It’s a receipt for disasters

  5. Steve Wise

    I’ve never been pushed to go as hard by an dispatcher in 30 years of driving as I have by an E-LOG.

    • Bonnie

      E-logs are the drivers worst enemy bc most drivers are not taught how to use them properly. Some companies put them in the trucks bc they are mandated too, and even the companies log department doesn’t know how to use them. Some e-logs jump ahead by ten to fifteen minutes while the truck is moving without the driver putting in their info, my husband is always running out of hours with his e-logs bc of a glitch in the system. And why are the dispatchers always asking the drivers for their log hrs if these e-logs are supposed to keep up with the hrs.

      • stephen

        My truck went on fire in a 2005 western star 4 weeks ago from the E-log. The insurance company says this is happening a lot in the older trucks ( pre 2007) The E-log trucks in Ontario Canada are getting most of the speeding tickets. Brampton city police have stated that all the bad tractor trailer accidents this year happened with E-log equipped trucks within the city limits. This despite over 50 % of the trucks in Bramptom are still on paper. ( in Canada E-logs are not required if do not run in the U.S. We need to fine all receivers who do not provide parking to complete the truck drivers 10 hour break. E-logs were pushed to get rid of small companies and farmers with 1 to 3 trucks and get rates higher. In 2006 the Federal gov. in Canada said truck drivers were underpaid and should be paid like a trade for all hours worked.I have towed out of parking lots with no hours. ordered to leave by the police receivers by no hours.

  6. Marc Robinson

    The biggest issue is not the 30 minute break. That’s just a pointer towards the real problem, which is the 14 hour clock. The “rush! rush! rush!” mentality started when they instituted the 14 hour clock, which was mandated years before the addition of the 30 minute break. Many of the older, seasoned drivers predicted this exact outcome when they first announced the 14 hour clock. Sadly, they were right.
    Texting and driving is also becoming an increasingly serious problem, too, and that also can be partially attributed to the 14 hour clock. Almost all truck drivers use hands-free devices for voice calls, so talking on the phone is not the issue… but while drivers once used truck stop payphone and a memo pad for dispatch information, they now cannot afford to stop and write down information without cutting into their 14 hour clock, so many drivers depend on text messages from their dispatchers in place of making a stop to call for information to write down.
    ATA should check their statistics. Unless there was a change since then, the last official government study that I know of, put the number of cars that caused car vs truck collisions at around 85%. Unless they’re calculating their averages including all of car caused accidents that involved trucks vs all the truck accidents including cars AND all of the truck accidents including trucks only. That’s unfair math, likely to justify the ATA’s motivation to increase collusion avoidance technology in trucks (which is a really BAD IDEA, too). It’s only helpful to the really large companies, because mandating technology is placing a huge burden on small companies, possibly driving them out of business. The big companies only have to make a few cents per mile (multiplied by hundreds or thousands of trucks) to remain profitable. It also substitutes computer algorithms for high quality driver training and monitoring. The most dangerous part of technology centered safety systems, us that drivers will be dumbed down after becoming reliant on computerized technology (for example, with the advent of cell phones, how many people still know more than a few phone numbers by heart? And what if it was brake measurements, or gear-to-speed ratios that were forgotten, instead of phone numbers?). There is a need for a major overhaul in the hours of service.

    • ken

      You are so right i have seen fist fights over parking spots this summer. many truck drivers in Canada will no longer do cross border freight. Accidents are running much higher in reefer trucks in 2018 compared to 2017 in Ontario. Safety systems do NOT work in BAD snow storms. We need a major overhaul in truck driver pay and the hours of service. All receivers need to have 10 hour parking with bathrooms. Any receivers who tells a truck driver to leave after a delivery that takes more than 3 hours, with less than 1 hour left on the truck drivers log should have a fine and have to pay for any accident that truck gets in in the next 10 hours.

  7. Ron craig

    Instead of study after study which is a vast waste of time and money,why not make the US Hiwys one size applies to all,having a license is not a right,its a privelidge,How about instead of attacking the very soul of America you stomp the devil of the non cdl then the roads will be safe for all

    • John

      I had a chinesse co driver who had a valad driver licence could not read english or drive how in the hell did this person get a valad licence in New York shortly after i retired 31 years accident free God bless the future truck drivers

  8. flyin'j

    The more operational control the vehicle has the less opportunities for driver to learn/develop/practice/sharpen his/her/its ability to operate and maintain control over said vehicle. After long enough nobody will have the slightest idea what they’re doing anymore. A “Driver” will suddenly be a “Vehicle Operations Monitor.” PERIOD.

    You might ask, “But aren’t they also there to take control in hazardous situations/operating conditions?”

    NO! Not under ANY circumstances save for under strict supervision on a closed-course. Why? Because with all that sitting there bored stupid watching dials and clocks, when the going gets tough and the alarms start the tough will realize they haven’t got a clue and it’ll be catastrophe with a dash of tragedy, before the truck can finish saying “Hazardous Conditions: Self-Drive On.”

    Maybe according to some corporate fat-cat suit dummy the “driver” is an “emergency countermeasure”…or maybe suit dummy is a lying sack of shit and it’s actually defined as “Stool Pigeon” or “Fall Guy.”

    Basically just your “Designated Asshole At-Fault” liability absorber. That way when one of these computer controlled commercial cruise missiles gets into a freak snowstorm and obliterates a dozen cars waiting at a stop light, or decides to avoid traffic by detouring through that elementary school over there at 65MPH because its mapping software is out of date and that school wasn’t there before, cause will be determined that dingus at the drivers desk was too distracted diddling his dink to notice. Truck company/owner will throw his ass directly under the bus, insurance will replace the equipment, lives will be lost, families destroyed, the general public will hate truckers a little bit more.

    Conveniently however, the irresponsible and reckless disregard for human life and limb on the part of the manufacturer will be quietly swept under the rug because they’re INGENIOUS.


    • Tony Childs

      it is getting to be a major pain in the ass to get anywhere. I AM A DRIVER, LET ME DRIVE. Why is everyone pointing at us while everyone else is driving like crazy people? Put a restricter plate on cars too. TOO many people are texting watching movies and just not paying attention. I am changing my career field.

  9. Steven

    In my opinion another big factor in fatigues and crash involving trucks is Shipper/Receiver.
    If a truck is late or early that driver could be paying a heavy price including delay for pick or delivery and sometime that price could be huge including lost income for days or penalties from shipping/receiving.
    More over due to less flexibility in time that driver has to speed to make time from traffic delays and time lost in construction sites over the highway.
    Many are building huge brand new buildings with zero parking in mind for truckers and not just inside of their property but those roads connecting those huge buildings are with signs all over for trucks that reads TRUCK NO PARKING.
    And next town is 10 miles away.

    • ken

      You are so right we need to change way the Shipper and Receiver look at truck parking and detention. We had a principal when I was in grade 10 that made several farm boys quit high school that were doing chores before and after school. The next year he was forced to retire, after over 20% of the grade 10 boys quit. The top people at the warehouses are doing the same to truckers today with e-logs.

  10. ds

    The hos and 30 min break is a absolute joke and non realistic . Drivers that know when not to go thru Chicago rush hours(or any big city) are now forced to go thru them because of there non stop 14 hour clock.. So instead of them making a wise decision and pulling over before the mess and a better risk of not having a accident and less STRESS, they have to go thru it and put even more traffic in the disaster already… So now instead of sitting in a truck stop or rest area and are safe till its free flowing, they get to go sit in traffic and stop and go for a couple hours, not getting anywhere anyways and putting themselves in danger, just because the fmsca and all these people that think they know everything about the trucking industry because of statistics and looking at a piece a paper… Its not really the elog thats the problem at all. It’s the hours of service.

  11. art

    It has become a race against the clock because the government has over regulated driving.
    Life is not black or white. There must be flexibility or chaos occurs.
    Great job democrats who never held a real middle class job.

  12. Mark

    Your spot on. I save a swift going down the vine. Although I was speeding I explained to the other trucker how to slow his truck. He said he though automatic breaking ment he didnt have to worry the truck brakes did it for him.

  13. mousekiller

    These modern day FMCSA rule makers have no clue. It matters not how many times they meet with drivers they don’t listen nor understand. Not one FMCSA employee that has any control or say so in rule making has ever used a CDL to earn a living. I’v been out here in a CMV for over half century. We used to be able to stop the clock when WE wanted and no penalty as we could stop the clock. No issues and no parking problems. Before you run off at the mouth there were far fewer trucks stops and rest areas to be used by truckers and we still managed to do our job safely. The last 25 or so years we have seen fewer qualified drivers enter the industry. They have no clue how to be observant of their surroundings, lack the ability to plan ahead and to be able to adapt if that plan fails. . The biggest failing I have seen is far too many lack any kind of work ethic and have next to nothing in the personal pride dept.. They have this mantra of” I can dress and behave any way I want” resulting in the dumpster diver appearance and performance in the industry. . See how that has worked out.Let us the drivers behind the wheel decide when to stop the truck for any reason we see the need for and any number of times and with out penalty. Stopping the truck should stop the clock. Safety nap. A sit down healthy meal. To wait out rush hour traffic. It is called safety.We had fewer hours to do the job of driving many years ago as apposed to the 11 hrs today and we still got it done with fewer problems. . Wonder why? We worked together was a big part of it and could think for ourselves.Imaging that , being able to think for ourselves. What a concept.

    • dennis brown

      a healthy sit down meal??? wth is that??? pilot and loves has no clue what that is…look at all the wendys, mcdonalds, arbys, taco (b)hells, pizza hut, popeyes & chesters fried chicken places…take a look at the list…notice they all have one thing in common, processed meats and fast foods…why??? pilot and most likely loves philosophy is “We DON’T do food service!” then lets look at t/a where the owners (Hilton hotels) in the name of increasing profit started closing ALL food service, restaurant and fast food alike at 10pm or removing the full service restaurants, replacing them with fast food…and they wonder why the diabetes rate has increased so much over the last 20 years

  14. Genald bujold

    The elog is the whorst thing that à driver could have on his dash #1 when you wait to get unload hrs ans hrs so you get stuck on the dock and This is it you cant move ! I Work for a cpie who haul coke pétrol and it take so much Time to get load that you cant go anywhere or you are going ti wait for at least 18 hrs Time to reset and wait again beind the others truckers so usualy the elog keep me awake 36 hrs strait Time without sleeping of coors I Stuart my day a 2 hrs un the morning to get the customer a 14 hrs pm and then get the load at 23h00 at night and of coors to cross Toronto you dont have choice you cross at night or it is a Big tree hrs to drive about 60 miles so you keep going that wath happen at Imperial oil at Sarnia Ontario and most driver does it un Canada 🇨🇦 they dont stop and dont sleep juste because of the elog whitch Count the minutes strait Time so this systheme one day is going to kill peuples more on Road than never!

  15. Steve

    At least once per week I find myself rushing to beat the clock because of the 11 hour or the 14 hour rule. We need to have more flexibility. The company I work with had 3 drivers attacked since the first of March of this year. My truck has been broken once. The local police have told me at least 7 times in the past nine months were I was parked was not safe. I told them I had no hours on E log I have been towed from Walmart . I was told if I did not leave a C and S warehouse in dopois PA that would be arrested. The police promised me something in writing it took 3 days and a lawyer to get. The whole thing comes down to money. My truck burnt up 3 weeks ago with me in the bunk when the E log caught on fire. The insurance company will not pay for the damages because E-logs are not covered. I have living in a homeless shelter for the past 3 weeks in Brampton Ontario Canada. 716 800 5814 The C T. A. or the A.T.A. do not seem to care that accidents in Ontario Canada we’re up over 40 percent April 1 this year to September 1 this year to last year for large trucks . The M T.O. has said fines by customers is the number one cause under limited time to run.We need a different model of pay no more late fines for traffic or weather. under E-logs. A minimum rates of pay local $ 23.50 per hour O.T.R. of $28.00 per hour plus overtime pay after 10 hours per day or 50 hours per week. 716 800 5814

  16. Jeromy Hodges

    Stop blaming ELDs. I used them for 5 plus years and my driving habits did not change from when I used paper logs.

    My guess is that those who feel they need to rush are the ones who limit themselves to only driving certain hours during the day. If you want to make money you need to be able to drive during whatever hours you need to. When you limit yourself to a certain time period, you are cutting your throat from the start.

    I also bet many don’t know how to use extended waiting time at shippers/receivers in order to use the split sleeper rule. If you wait long enough at a shipper/receiver, like 10 hours, guess what? You just got your 10 hour break. So drive.

    I’ll also bet many live above their means. Cut back on some of your debts.

    The ELD is just an enforcement tool, just like what paper logs were supposed to be. ELDs are not the problem. HOS is the problem, and that problem is being worked on.

    ELDs can not operate the vehicle so to blame a piece of equipment on a human’s stupid decisions is ridiculous.

    If you want to blame someone for ELDs, blame those driver who liked to drive illegal.

    Very simply, if you feel you can’t make a living by driving legally, go find another job and don’t put other people on the roadways at risk.

  17. Tim Herbert

    I’m concerned about three things, 11 hour driving rule, 14 hour day and 1/2 he break after 8 hours driving. 1st- I think the 11 hour rule should be a set amount of miles per day set by the driver or company you work for, independent drivers should be at no more than 880 per day, due to mph sighs, at 80 mph. Depending on that states they are driving in or through. If it’s 70 then the miles would be 800 per day. This way the driver can drive the speed limit and not be stressed about time and be safe. 2nd- 14 hour day, miles per day overrules this rule. Again, less stress. 3rd- let the driver rest when they are ready and break when they need to, even if it’s for a nap, if you are alert and can drive, do it, if you’re fatigued rest. We are given a p/u time and date and a delivery time and date, let us decide the in between.

  18. Arctic Front

    My dad was a long-haul trucker, off-road low-bed equipment hauler, and Greyhound bus driver as well as a logging truck driver. He had over 4 million miles before he retired. He told me he wanted to retire because the younger drivers had no SKILL, no MANNERS, no CLUE and no CONCERN for anybody else on the roads. He was afraid to share the roads and highways with them. In short, they were under-trained, under-skilled, and didn’t give a shit. In Canada a growing number of Drivers are from India, can’t speak or read english, don’t know how to put on chains in bad weather and get their Class 1 licenses out of a box of Cracker Jacks (candy box). The trucking industry is in bad shape. Regulations that should be there to ensure safety are ignored, poorly enforced and need revision. Most of the current regs are there because the industry as a whole failed to self-police and brought the regs upon themselves. Profit over safety and common sense. The multitude of operators has caused a ‘race to the bottom’ for rates and with it, any potential profit. For a small company to make any money they have to break rules. The accident rates reflect this. In-experienced drivers, pushing limits, poor or no training, poorly maintained equipment and very low rates created this problem. A magic wand isn’t going to fix it. Sadly, the only way to ‘fix’ it is more and stiffer regulation on training, mechanical inspections and duty times. Tarifs and cartage rates need to be raised to endure there is enough money in the till to support better maintained trucks and to squeeze out these low-baller companies holding the rest of the companies hostage by the low rates. Deregulation of the industry was always a double-edge sword. How do you like the ‘other’ edge now? how is this working out for you now?


  19. Scott

    I would like to agree totally with 99% of the comments about the ELD being most of the problem.Since mandate,I drive differently,and its not a good thing.I realize that am always racing the clock.I speed now,something I never did before,I take other chances I never did before and for what?ELD runs me now! Its a catch 22 with us O/Operators.Drive faster to make your run and pay for it in fuel mileage,and for those who don’t drive a CMV,that can be anywhere from $250-$800 a week in xtra fuel.Since the ELD mandate,I have seen a lot of fellow truck drivers doing things I never really witnessed before,biggest thing being fights and another is seeing them on their side involved in accidents(lots more then I ever witnessed)I guess maybe the so-called people who are supposed to know what they are doing will take advise of the ones who actually do know what they are doing advise,but not before lots of human life is sacrificed.Wonder why driver shortage,I said I would give elds a chance for a year and then?Well,its been a year and I bought a 98 so I could go back on paper logs,but now can’t find a job(mostly because of high priced attorneys running the world)Company’s are scared to death to run paper,why?Because on elds and dash cams you can prove the driver did nothing wrong,but still are sued by these people causing accidents on purpose for a payday!What do you think they do to a driver that has the ability to write anything down,key word being ability.We all know how that goes though,if not,just get a dot inspection and see how the officer trys to put words in your mouth,that you are fibbing about logs,its happened to me too many times,am done,period.Gettin a job at McDonald’s where I should make out all right with much less time involved.

  20. Johnny

    Wait a minute! I thought forcing everyone to have a counting down clock in the face of the driver’s was supposed to prevent this? That’s the real problem the electric logs literally puts a countdown timer in the face of the driver! So how can you not feel rushed while looking at the clock all day? It really puts load planners and dispatchers in charge of what the driver is doing and takes control out of the driver’s hands! Whatever idiot that thought it was a good idea to put all drivers on the exact same time restrictions obviously was oblivious to the way the real world works! It doesn’t work and this increase in accidents only proves that it isn’t working! With big companies pushing out more drivers with minimal training to make up for the change and try to keep up with demand of the industry it’s only going to continue to get worse!

  21. TruckerRustoo

    I have read the article and all the comments and I must agree with every trucker on here voicing their experiences as well as opinions. What I want you fellow truckers to understand though, is that, the E-log will not be eliminated primarily because there is too much money involved. The e-log technology generates too much money for the benefactors including and not limited to our piliticians, the IT industtries and even the mega trucking companies, with little or no regards for us truckers that are the ‘lifeline’ of the industry. If however the E-log will be forced out away from out lives, we have to concertedly do so and do the foloowing:

    1. Require that everyone making decisions on trucking rulemaking must spend six months OTR day and night, regardless of their office, college education or job descriptions this includes Mueller of FMCSA, even if we truckers have to pay their salaries for those six months.

    2. Organise and print and distribute flyers to truckers at truck stops and rest areas, stating a unionized plan to be implemented state by state, contribute a minimum of $5 and a maximunm of $20 a month. With this monies which will average millions of dollars with which we can lobby the politicians both at the local, state and national levels; thus, effecting the laws and regulations in favor of the general public and the trucking industry across the board. This lobbying advantage and strategy is what the big companies have and are using against the small guys – the owner operators particularly. We can even implement this paragraph by expanding the already existing IAOO, Independent Association of Owner Operators on a state by state level. I am sure we have so many intelligent
    and experienced truckers, as well as educated individuals that can be instrumentalized for solving most of the issues the industry is facing, today.

    3. Lastly, we need to vehemently petition the FMCSA to eliminate 14 hour rule and leave the HOS to run 24 hrs whereby we can take breaks as needed, park for rush hour traffic to wane and do not have to rush due to delay at the pickup and or delivery points. Doing this everybody wins, they get to keep their e-log money coming by in, truckers are not pressurised by a computer device and exhausted driver can park and don’t need to drive and kill the other motorists.

    Another issue I will addres in the future is the health issue amplified by this stiff and heartless unflexible HOS burden placed upon the truckers by the FMCSA. This health issue I researched before I entered the industry. I will address thîs issue and how it’s affecting truck drivers particularly with HOS, in the next article I will read on this medium. Till then guys, keeping on trucking be safe and have a Merry Christmas.

  22. Roadlizard

    E logs are not specifically the problem and neither are the time constraints but both of them togeter are volatile. I agree with what’s being said here we need more flexibility and e logs give us none the 30 minute break and 14hr shift is fine but we need the option to choose when we take the break!! When to stop the clock!!! Counting down the clock to a violation while your driving is an insidious way to force compliance. Nobody really wonders why the death toll is rising for truckers we Face that reality everyday in one of the most dangerous professions there has ever been. These fat cats running the show need to read the news we are the ones governed by these regulations and we need to be heard. We are the ones living out of a truck 10 months out of the year our lives are the ones effected the most by bad mandates and restrictions. Everyone out here knows the industry is changing but that’s not an excuse to be unethical either We have a responsibility to be safe on the road and follow the rules whenever possible but at the same time I’m in complete agreement that we need clarity on the issues that havnt been addressed like unavoidable violations, time loss due to unforeseen events that lead to violations and how we can keep compliance when those issues arise. We see more and more in experienced drivers out on the road which in my opinion is just the nature of the industry but inexperience shouldn’t mean uninformed, intrainable, unreliable characteristics like these should never fit that of a truck driver or anyone running equipment with the potential to endanger the lives of the general public or anyone the worst thing you can ever do is assume in this buisiness that regulation and counter measures can take the place of experience and education.the buck stops there where all these issues collide and the ones mandating us should focus harder on informing and training new drivers than coming up with new restrictions that does not mean we don’t need restrictions but you can’t build a house from the roof down plain and simple. We can start by enforcing stricter regulations on companies training programs more exposure for new drivers more training everyone has a story about a driver who(@@@) fill in the blank and then tell me why you go through 6 weeks of training and never learn to back up you don’t know about tail spin no one told you how to take a turn it’s the training they where never taught so they never learned now you take that driver and put them in a work situation with a dispatcher who doesn’t care about that just the companies bottom line so they Constantly push than you add the e log into the mix what do you got? A time bomb. That’s what they need to understand is that it’s not one thing no regulation on its own is going to fix this problem. They need to focus on on building from the ground up.

  23. Richard Major

    Actually I do NOT believe E-logs are the problem, I have used them now for over 7 years and my driving habits have not changed! The problem is the drivers not being attentive to conditions, only caring about them selves and nobody else, use of too many electronic devices such as cell phones, GPS, Tablets, small DVD players, etc while driving (yes I have seen drivers watching movies while driving), putting their feet up on the dash, etc. These companies are pushing drivers through training to fast! Then 90 days later making them a trainer when they know just enough to be dangerous. These younger people drive big trucks the same as they drive a 4 wheeler. I do 100% oversize/overweight loads (heavy haul) and years ago other truckers would help out when you needed help changing lanes, crossing bridges, turning and other tasks, now today drivers will cut you off and not give you the space you need. They use the E-logs as an excuse for their failure to properly plan their trip and checking their routes with a map, etc. Their attitude is run hard I will find a place to park somewhere, then they park in the fire lanes of truck stops and rest areas and when you ask them to move so you can get out they become irate for being woke up. Look at the number of accidents with bridge hits and taking routes a big truck shouldn’t be on, the driver says “I was just following my GPS”. They don’t even know how to read a map anymore. So let’s be realistic here, it’s not so much an E-log problem as it is an attitude problem with the younger people and their not being trained properly and their reliance on electronic gadgets, it is time we police ourselves and go back to Old School trucking where we helped each other out and didnt fight amongst ourselves!

  24. Marc

    Yep that’s what we need..
    Turn the trucks up so that the dumbass truck drivers that are slamming into bridges can do it at a faster clip

  25. Joseph ware

    There’s no reason for the accidents on the highways.Driver’s need to have there health check out,most of all have the sleep study done.what is in place works,there are still to many dangerous driver’s on the highways.

    • Pat

      The ATA is a Joke!! Money money money!! They don’t care about safety!! The ELD will save 27 lives!! Huh!! Didn’t work!! Now there jumping on more parking, more truck stops!! Blah blah, just go back to paper and leave us alone!! I’ve been out here for 39 years and got in more arguments with DOT because most not all are idiots that don’t know the law!!! Again THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT LIFE!! It’s all money in there pockets!!

  26. Dave

    Automatic braking standard on passenger cars? 2022 winter will probably see alot of spun out and ditched vehicles if brakes apply “on ice” without warning. That’s also a jackknife risk for loaded semis. Blind tech… doesn’t make the roads safer in perilous conditions. Training, proper attention and experience do.


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